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	<title>Comments on: Thought experiment is not science</title>
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		<title>By: thinkevolution.net &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Another naughty example by the NYTimes</title>
		<link>http://thinkevolution.net/archives/57#comment-716</link>
		<dc:creator>thinkevolution.net &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Another naughty example by the NYTimes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 19:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] it&#8217;s so full of flimsy logic. Of course it&#8217;s just the latest article among many (e.g. 1,2,3) that have inappropriately invoked adaptive explanations for complex human [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] it&#8217;s so full of flimsy logic. Of course it&#8217;s just the latest article among many (e.g. 1,2,3) that have inappropriately invoked adaptive explanations for complex human [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ABP</title>
		<link>http://thinkevolution.net/archives/57#comment-24</link>
		<dc:creator>ABP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 17:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Mom,

Yes, my concern is only that he implies that his conclusions are scientific.  (Haven&#039;t read the book, so maybe he is much more careful in his argument there.) 

In this case, I would say that the words &quot;know&quot; or &quot;understand&quot; denote fact-based evidence, but the word &quot;believe&quot; denotes faith, or conviction despite a lack of fact-based evidence.  I&#039;ve got no problem with a scientist with &quot;beliefs,&quot; but it&#039;s important not to call a conviction of faith a scientific fact.  My overall criticism is that Wolpert probably doesn&#039;t consider his perspective in the belief category at all (notwithstanding &quot;blah&#039;s&quot; post).  He claims to argue from &quot;evidence,&quot; but I don&#039;t think anyone could ever accumulate the right kind of evidence to prove things one way or another.

In short, whether tool use encouraged a cause-and-effect sort of worldview in early humans and led to a biologically-based propensity for religion is simply an untestable hypothesis.  Fascinating?  Yes!  An academic topic?  Why not.  But testable by means of rigorous science?  Nope.

Thanks for the comment!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mom,</p>
<p>Yes, my concern is only that he implies that his conclusions are scientific.  (Haven&#8217;t read the book, so maybe he is much more careful in his argument there.) </p>
<p>In this case, I would say that the words &#8220;know&#8221; or &#8220;understand&#8221; denote fact-based evidence, but the word &#8220;believe&#8221; denotes faith, or conviction despite a lack of fact-based evidence.  I&#8217;ve got no problem with a scientist with &#8220;beliefs,&#8221; but it&#8217;s important not to call a conviction of faith a scientific fact.  My overall criticism is that Wolpert probably doesn&#8217;t consider his perspective in the belief category at all (notwithstanding &#8220;blah&#8217;s&#8221; post).  He claims to argue from &#8220;evidence,&#8221; but I don&#8217;t think anyone could ever accumulate the right kind of evidence to prove things one way or another.</p>
<p>In short, whether tool use encouraged a cause-and-effect sort of worldview in early humans and led to a biologically-based propensity for religion is simply an untestable hypothesis.  Fascinating?  Yes!  An academic topic?  Why not.  But testable by means of rigorous science?  Nope.</p>
<p>Thanks for the comment!</p>
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		<title>By: NBP</title>
		<link>http://thinkevolution.net/archives/57#comment-23</link>
		<dc:creator>NBP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 17:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, is it the fact that he calls himself a scientist - and his conclusions scientific - your only concern? If he called it a religious belief, would that be acceptable?  After all, then it does not have to be proven; leap of faith and all that?  Can any of his conclusions be proven?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, is it the fact that he calls himself a scientist &#8211; and his conclusions scientific &#8211; your only concern? If he called it a religious belief, would that be acceptable?  After all, then it does not have to be proven; leap of faith and all that?  Can any of his conclusions be proven?</p>
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		<title>By: blah</title>
		<link>http://thinkevolution.net/archives/57#comment-22</link>
		<dc:creator>blah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2007 19:25:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obviously it&#039;s a hypothesis, but what right do you have to call it pseudoscience. That&#039;s ridiculous. This guy has a developed a reasonable explanation for the origins of belief, a logical hypothesis. He claims, in his own opinion, that he &quot;believes&quot; this to be true. There is the magic word. Stop being pretentious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obviously it&#8217;s a hypothesis, but what right do you have to call it pseudoscience. That&#8217;s ridiculous. This guy has a developed a reasonable explanation for the origins of belief, a logical hypothesis. He claims, in his own opinion, that he &#8220;believes&#8221; this to be true. There is the magic word. Stop being pretentious.</p>
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		<title>By: AS</title>
		<link>http://thinkevolution.net/archives/57#comment-21</link>
		<dc:creator>AS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2007 19:24:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seriously.  This dude is an utter buffoon.  And he seems to take pride in simply not engaging with other thinkers on the subject.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seriously.  This dude is an utter buffoon.  And he seems to take pride in simply not engaging with other thinkers on the subject.</p>
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